Comments on: MSNBC’s Primetime Trounces Fox News Since Election Day: Maddow And O’Donnell Soar

By: Bruce K

Bruce K — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:23:44 +0000

Fox, like Bush, has the terrorism of 9/11 to thank for all of its success. Now that people aren’t scared like back then, they just sound like crazy people who are mad all the time.

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:29:19 +0000

Thanks, Red. I agree with your spot-on description of Fox News.

By: RedInDenver

RedInDenver — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:18:06 +0000

What complete and utter partisan horsecrap.

By: sandman1

sandman1 — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:04:44 +0000

In my defense, freedom does mean something different to me than the cheerleaders at fox and the chickenhawks they fawn over. You hit the nail with that guess Steve, so good job and have a great Thanksgiving.

By: steve in york

steve in york — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:39:22 +0000

I can’t even remember how or why fox news came into existence – I’m sure your recollection is based on your delusional belief in liberal only media and hatred of anything you don’t believe. By the way, i’m not sure you even know what freedom even means – it includes my right to be as heartless as I want.

By: sandman1

sandman1 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:38:52 +0000

“just honest news” is the reason Foxnews came into existence. Rightwingers back in the day didn’t like the fact that honest news seemingly always makes the right seem heartless, not for the masses, non compassionate jackasses. So rightwingers like ailes, instead of abandoning those core conservative principles, decided to create a news channel that would gob some frosting on those principles and call it freedom cake.

By: steve in york

steve in york — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:21:43 +0000

You got it right, Mark fools himself into thinking MSNBC is less propaganda like than fox news – it’s just different propaganda (ie leftist).
Fox news will get what it deserves because of its blatant partisan tone as will MSNBC. Of course Mark can’t argue for just honest news, which would be best for everyone.

By: Bigtoe

Bigtoe — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:03:37 +0000

That really is the main difference as I see it. MSNBC has a reputation of truth telling and obviously want to keep that in tact. That is the reason I go there. (It appears others are learning that as well) When you fact check them, you get confirmation, not surprises. If they make mistakes (and let’s be honest, there are very few) they tell you they made a mistake, feel bad about it and make the necessary corrections.

Fox? Not so much. Which is one of many reasons why their viewers are so woefully uninformed. I watch on occasion and am continually amazed at the overt manipulation that is practiced there. For the uneducated and misinformed, I can understand how they get “locked in”. Fox knows what they want to hear and gives it to them. Roger Ailes saw the rightwing market for what it is and being the capitalist he is, took advantage of them.

Rachels’ style is exactly why I like her. She’s able to call “bullshit” without being obnoxious about it. Lawrence has inside experience into the workings of congress and gives a unique perspective others can’t.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 04:44:35 +0000

Glad to hear you’re no fan of Palin, but sorry to hear that your are a fan of Morris. Anyone in any other job that screwed up as much as Morris wouldn’t have a job for long.

As I’ve mentioned before, I don’t think there is any comparison between MSNBC and Fox. Neither Matthews nor Schultz is anything like Hannity because they may be partisan, but they don’t make shit up – like Hannity does.

By: John C. Plantada

John C. Plantada — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:00:01 +0000

I think people may be exhausted after the election, and have taken a break. Nonetheless, congratulations to MSNBC for its ratings success. We’ll see if it can retain its numbers. If nothing else, it will provide you an opportunity to scrutinize them a bit more for a change since they’ll be the top dog.

One of the things I don’t like about these evening shows is that they tend to have the same guests/analysts/pundits. I like Dick Morris, not for his accuracy, but for his twisted analysis. I rarely agree with him, and he has proven himself to be wrong much more often than he is right. It’s amazing how someone can take a set of facts or numbers and completely spin them in the opposite direction from what one might think. I think he enjoys being a contrarian, hoping one of these days, he’ll be right and everybody will think he’s a freakin genius. His genius is in how he explains his way out of being wrong because of this or that factor that “came from left field” or other nonsense.

I don’t like Sarah Palin and Van Susteren’s connection with her diminishes her credibility.

As for MSNBC, there’s a competition over who is more “Sean Hannity-esque”, Chris Matthews or Ed Schultz. My vote is for Ed. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that other pillar of MSNBC strength, Rev. Al Sharpton. I find Rachel Maddow’s style most annoying of all, and I don’t watch Lawrence O’Donnell enough to have a strong opinion. One thing I will say about MSNBC, all the evening shows are every bit as partisan, if not more overtly partisan (à la Hannity? than FOX’s…but that’s just me.