{"id":10842,"date":"2013-11-06T10:50:30","date_gmt":"2013-11-06T18:50:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/?p=10842"},"modified":"2013-11-06T10:50:30","modified_gmt":"2013-11-06T18:50:30","slug":"bill-oreilly-is-cool-if-you-go-bankrupt-or-die-waiting-another-year-for-health-care","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/?p=10842","title":{"rendered":"Bill O&#8217;Reilly Is Cool If You Go Bankrupt Or Die Waiting Another Year For Health Care"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare) was passed three years ago, and in that time has already helped millions of people by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthcare.gov\/how-does-the-health-care-law-protect-me\/\" target=\"_blank\">setting standards<\/a> for insurance coverage that prohibit discrimination for preexisting conditions, permit children to remain on their parents policies until they are 26 years old, mandating free preventative care, forbidding arbitrary cancellations, eliminating annual and lifetime limits, etc. And that&#8217;s before the introduction of the health care exchanges that provide better and less expensive plans to millions.<\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/Pix\/FoxNews\/oreilly-no-idea.jpg\" alt=\"Bill O'Reilly\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/News-Corpse\/117899091558228?v=wall\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Like me on Facebook\">Be Sure To \u201cLIKE\u201d News Corpse On Facebook<\/a><\/center><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>The new law has already saved lives and the financial well being of many families and individuals. But that is of no concern to Bill O&#8217;Reilly of Fox News. On his Tuesday night program he debated Dr. Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economist who contributed to the development of both RomneyCare and ObamaCare (video below). O&#8217;Reilly began the discourse by asking how long insurance companies have been not insuring those with preexisting conditions. He then answered his own leading and manipulative question by saying that <em>&#8220;It&#8217;s been, roughly, since the Revolutionary War,&#8221;<\/em> and adding that one more year won&#8217;t matter. Dr. Gruber responded with the an observation that is all too frequently ignored by pundits and politicians who attack the ACA. But pay extra attention to O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s retort.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Gruber:<\/strong> It&#8217;s easy for you to say, but you&#8217;re not someone who&#8217;s living every day with the risk of going bankrupt or dying because you don&#8217;t have insurance coverage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Reilly:<\/strong> I&#8217;m talking about the greater good. I understand this suffering and if there&#8217;s any way that I personally can alleviate it, I will. I give beaucoup money to charity to try to relieve&#8230;The greater good is served by having a law that is being mandated, all right, imposed on the population, clear, number one, and functional, number two. And neither of those things are happening, doctor.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>See? O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s just standing up for the <em>&#8220;greater good.&#8221;<\/em> It&#8217;s perfectly acceptable for some families to lose their mothers or fathers or children if, in exchange, we can insure that there is a functional website to enroll others next year. That&#8217;s the greater good, isn&#8217;t it? So some families will will become homeless or have to spend their retirement savings on medical expenses. That isn&#8217;t nearly as important as avoiding Internet glitches or forcing people to enroll by telephone.<\/p>\n<p>In almost every occurrence of some television blowhard criticizing ObamaCare&#8217;s flawed rollout, the critic is a wealthy member of a privileged class who never has to worry about access to health care. And like O&#8217;Reilly, they often reveal their callous insensitivity toward people who are less fortunate. O&#8217;Reilly trailed off in his self-congratulatory nod to his charitability without specifying how he personally relieves anyone&#8217;s suffering. Instead, he makes a judgment as to whether saving lives is even a worthy goal. And to compound his haughty arrogance, he demonstrates an embarrassing ignorance of the ACA&#8217;s scope.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Gruber:<\/strong> But Bill, you have to remember. This bill is not affecting the vast majority of the American population. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s getting lost is the fact that the vast majority of Americans getting their insurance from their employers or the government are not affected by this law.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Reilly:<\/strong> We don&#8217;t know that yet. The law is only about six weeks old. We don&#8217;t know that yet. But the evidence rolling in is that the suffering being caused by the law is much more intense than the help it is going to give.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gruber:<\/strong> That&#8217;s absolutely wrong.<\/p>\n<p><strong>O&#8217;Reilly:<\/strong> All right. We have a gentleman&#8217;s disagreement on that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What O&#8217;Reilly calls a gentleman&#8217;s disagreement is generally regarded as fundamental misunderstanding (or blatant misrepresentation) by rational observers. First of all, it is unarguably true that most Americans (over 80%) get their health insurance from their employers or governmental agencies like Medicare and the Veterans Administration. Secondly, the law is three years old, not six weeks. Like many ObamaCare critics, O&#8217;Reilly is mistaking the insurance marketplaces that just rolled out online as the whole of the program. Finally, O&#8217;Reilly didn&#8217;t bother to provide any details on the more intense suffering he alleged, most likely because there isn&#8217;t any truth to it.<\/p>\n<p>However, if you&#8217;re looking for a public voice to advance support for functional websites at the expense of the health and economic security of millions of Americans, you have found your advocate in Bill O&#8217;Reilly &#8211; the Guardian of the Greater Good. <em>[Note to O&#8217;Reilly: Isn&#8217;t the &#8220;Greater Good&#8221; a socialist concept?]<\/em><\/p>\n<p><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/video.insider.foxnews.com\/v\/embed.js?id=2809877837001&#038;w=466&#038;h=263\"><\/script><noscript>Watch the latest video at <a href=\"http:\/\/video.insider.foxnews.com\">video.insider.foxnews.com<\/a><\/noscript><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare) was passed three years ago, and in that time has already helped millions of people by setting standards for insurance coverage that prohibit discrimination for preexisting conditions, permit children to remain on their parents policies until they are 26 years old, mandating free preventative care, forbidding arbitrary cancellations, eliminating [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"Bill O'Reilly Is Cool If You Go Bankrupt Or Die Waiting Another Year For Health Care","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1,361],"tags":[26,33,1066],"class_list":["post-10842","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","category-healthcare","tag-bill-oreilly","tag-fox-news","tag-obamacare"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Ijg-2OS","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":10675,"url":"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/?p=10675","url_meta":{"origin":10842,"position":0},"title":"Bill O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s Know-Nothing Talking Points On ObamaCare (And Jon Stewart Too)","author":"Mark NC","date":"10\/8\/2013","format":false,"excerpt":"For the past week, the Fox News spokesman for the Divine Spirit, Bill O'Reilly, has been proselytizing his own prescription for resolving the government shutdown crisis. 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