{"id":43806,"date":"2020-01-19T13:18:39","date_gmt":"2020-01-19T21:18:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/?p=43806"},"modified":"2020-01-19T19:09:23","modified_gmt":"2020-01-20T03:09:23","slug":"trumps-perverse-impeachment-defense-he-should-not-be-impeached-even-if-hes-guilty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/?p=43806","title":{"rendered":"Trump&#8217;s Perverse Impeachment Defense: He Should Not Be Impeached Even If He&#8217;s Guilty"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Senate trial of Donald Trump&#8217;s Articles of Impeachment is set to begin on Tuesday. In advance of that, the Democrats released a <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2020\/01\/18\/politics\/house-brief-trump-impeachment\/index.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">111 page brief<\/a><\/strong> on how they intend to prosecute the case against Trump. It&#8217;s a detailed and comprehensive outline of the high crimes and misdemeanors that justify Trump&#8217;s conviction and removal from office.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/Pix\/Trump\/trump-constitution.jpg\" alt=\"Donald Trump, Constitution\" width=\"550\" height=\"296\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-42072\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/NewsCorpse\/posts\/3255684281113011\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Share on Facebook\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/Pix\/Advs\/fb-share-tn.jpg\" width=\"274\" height=\"20\" class=\"aligncenter\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>On the other side of the aisle, Trump&#8217;s <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/?p=43789\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">motley crew of Fox News lawyers<\/a><\/strong> released a shallow and lie-riddled response that hardly touches on the specific allegations against Trump. In fact, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/Answer-of-President-Donald-J.-Trump.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Trump&#8217;s official answer<\/a><\/strong> to the Articles of Impeachment is an emotional seven page rant that repetitiously makes a single point: that <em>&#8220;the Articles of Impeachment are constitutionally invalid&#8221;<\/em> because they <em>&#8220;fail to allege any crime or violation of the law.&#8221;<\/em> It further states that it is <em>&#8220;a lawless process that violated basic due process,&#8221;<\/em> and that its consideration would be <em>&#8220;subverting the will of the American people.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Every bit of that is utterly false and has no legal basis as a defense. The charge that there is no crime alleged is false because Trump&#8217;s efforts to coerce the Ukrainian president into aiding his scheme to smear Joe Biden is, in fact, a crime. So is withholding military aid allocated by Congress and signed by the President. So is ignoring Congressional subpoenas for documents and ordering his subordinates not to cooperate. But even if those weren&#8217;t crimes, it wouldn&#8217;t matter because the Constitution doesn&#8217;t require violations of criminal statutes. For one thing, there weren&#8217;t any criminal statutes at the time the Constitution was written.<\/p>\n<p>As for due process, that is a right granted in courts of law conducting criminal prosecutions. Due process doesn&#8217;t apply here because impeachment is a political process conducted in the Congress. Even so, Trump was permitted to present his witnesses and defense, but he declined to do so. He even refused after complaining about not having such an opportunity. And he&#8217;s still refusing to allow witnesses and documents that he says are exculpatory.<\/p>\n<p>The claim that impeachment <em>&#8220;subverts&#8221;<\/em> the will of the people is bizarre on its face. Was it subverting the will of the people when Clinton was impeached? How could any impeachment &#8211; which is, of course, in the Constitution &#8211; be pursued without the prospect of removing an elected president? To suggest, as Trump&#8217;s response does, that impeachment is <em>&#8220;a dangerous attack on the right of the American people to freely choose their President,&#8221;<\/em> is to assert that the Framers were out of their minds for including impeachment in the Constitution in the first place. They obviously didn&#8217;t include it with the intention that it never be used because it might result in a president being removed from office. And Trump probably shouldn&#8217;t raise the issue of <em>&#8220;the will of the people&#8221;<\/em> to <em>&#8220;freely choose their President,&#8221;<\/em> when he lost the election by 3,000,000 votes. If the will of the people were being respected, Hillary Clinton would be president.<\/p>\n<p>To bolster his argument that impeachment is invalid, Trump assigned the newest member of Fox News legal team, Alan Dershowitz, the task of presenting his case to the media. Dershowitz was interviewed by George Stephanopoulos where he offered up this preposterous legal theory:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Stephanopoulos:<\/strong> Is it your position that President Trump should not be impeached even if all the evidence and arguments laid out by the House are accepted as fact?<br \/>\n<strong>Dershowitz:<\/strong> That&#8217;s right.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GStephanopoulos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@GStephanopoulos<\/a>: &quot;Is it your position that\u00a0President Trump should not be\u00a0impeached even if all the evidence and arguments\u00a0laid out by the House are\u00a0accepted as fact?&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Alan Dershowitz: &quot;That&#39;s right.&quot; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/lpd9l8H85g\">https:\/\/t.co\/lpd9l8H85g<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/auxhsVu5lG\">pic.twitter.com\/auxhsVu5lG<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ABCPolitics\/status\/1218905678854729731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 19, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>The foundation of Dershowitz&#8217;s argument is that abuse of power and obstruction of Congress do not meet the criteria for impeachment under the Constitution. So he isn&#8217;t arguing that Trump isn&#8217;t guilty of abuse of power or obstruction of Congress, only that, in his view, the Constitution allows him to do so.<\/p>\n<p>Think about that. Dershowitz, as well as Trump&#8217;s defenders in Congress and the press, believe that a president may abuse power and obstruct Congress without ever having to worry about being held accountable. They can collude with adversarial foreign governments to interfere with an election. They can publish stolen emails and other private documents to smear their opponents. They can withhold critical funds in order to coerce foreign leaders to do their bidding on personal matters. And they can refuse to disclose such behaviors, and even lie about them to the American people.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the crazy vision that Trump and the Republican Party are offering to the nation. That&#8217;s their depraved interpretation of the Constitution. And that&#8217;s the legal basis for which they believe Trump should be exonerated. They know that they cannot defend Trump as innocent, so they&#8217;re embracing his guilt as acceptable. That&#8217;s how far Trump and the GOP have fallen.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;\"><strong>How Fox News Deceives and Controls Their Flock:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00QSSMOES\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=B00QSSMOES&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;tag=newscorpsecom-20&#038;linkId=TLI6JC2OYE22MUTS\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Fox Nation vs. Reality: The Fox News Cult of Ignorance.<\/a><br \/>\nAvailable now at Amazon.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>BONUS ADDITION:<\/strong> Dershowitz is flagrantly contradicting himself on the question of whether a crime is a necessary criteria for impeachment. In an interview with CNN&#8217;s Larry King in 1998, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tribelaw\/status\/1219028907749511168\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dershowitz said<\/a><\/strong> that impeachment <em>&#8220;certainly doesn&#8217;t have to be a crime if you have somebody who completely corrupts the office of president and who abuses trust and who poses great danger to our liberty, you don&#8217;t need a technical crime.&#8221;<\/em> So there&#8217;s that. Democrats should play video of that during the Senate trial immediately after Dershowitz&#8217;s statement.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Senate trial of Donald Trump&#8217;s Articles of Impeachment is set to begin on Tuesday. In advance of that, the Democrats released a 111 page brief on how they intend to prosecute the case against Trump. It&#8217;s a detailed and comprehensive outline of the high crimes and misdemeanors that justify Trump&#8217;s conviction and removal from [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":42072,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1,1200,13,16],"tags":[1308,554,39],"class_list":["post-43806","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-general","category-politics","category-scandalous","category-wankery","tag-alan-dershowitz","tag-donald-trump","tag-impeach"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/..\/Pix\/Trump\/trump-constitution.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4Ijg-boy","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":43523,"url":"https:\/\/www.newscorpse.com\/ncWP\/?p=43523","url_meta":{"origin":43806,"position":0},"title":"Fox News Senior Legal Analyst on Trump: &#8216;The Remedy of Impeachment is Acutely Needed&#8217;","author":"Mark NC","date":"12\/18\/2019","format":false,"excerpt":"The impeachment of Donald Trump is finally being debated in the House of Representatives. 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