In his first interview since the election last month, Donald Trump has cemented his reputation as a pathological liar and a thoroughly delusional distorter of reality. He is proving that he is consistent, at least with regard to his determination to mislead the nation in order to pursue his dangerously dystopic agenda and advance his aspirations of authoritarian rule.
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Trump sat down with NBC’s Kristen Welker on “Meet the Press” for a typically awkward discussion wherein he filibustered, interrupted, and disgorged many of the same flagrant falsehoods that he has been disseminating for years at his cult rallies and in friendly venues such as Fox News, where at least 14 of his new White House nominees have come from.
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Among the topics that Trump mangled were his refusal to concede that he lost the 2020 election, his denial that tariffs would raise prices for consumers, and his maligning migrants as murderers, and his ludicrous new claim that the 2024 election was also rigged.
Trump was also asked about the January 6th insurrection that he incited. His answers were the same as he has given previously, but still troubling with regard to two associated aspects of it…
Wannabe dictator Trump on Meet the Press…
1?? "Everybody on that [January 6th Committee] should go to jail."
2?? "I'm going to be acting very quickly [to pardon January 6th rioters]…on my first day."pic.twitter.com/dFDhhvcDAt— News Corpse (@NewsCorpse) December 8, 2024
These opinions could not be more distant from the sort of rational thinking that Americans expect from their leaders. He is declaring that he wants elected members of Congress to be imprisoned for fulfilling their duties to investigate the violent insurrection. And he is simultaneously advocating that the criminal insurrectionists who assaulted police offices as they stormed the Capital be freed and forgiven for their crimes, which he promises to do on his first day in office…
Welker: You promised to pardon those who attacked the Capitol on January 6th. Are you still vowing to follow through with that promise?
Trump: We’re looking at it right now. Most likely, yeah. […]
Welker: But you’re going to consider pardoning even those who pleaded guilty to crimes, including assaulting police officers?
Trump: Well, sometimes they say, “Here’s your choice.”
In the interview, Trump was also asked directly if he thought that Liz Cheney should go to jail. He replied…
“Cheney did something that’s inexcusable, along with [Rep. Benny] Thompson and the people on the un-select committee of political thugs and, you know, creeps. So the unselect committee went through a year and a half of testimony. Wait. They deleted and destroyed all evidence of — that they found. You know why? Because Nancy Pelosi was guilty. […] Everybody on that committee, for what they did, honestly, they should go to jail.”
Every word of that rant is demonstrably false. What Cheney did that was “inexcusable” was to acknowledge the evidence of Trump’s misconduct. And Trump’s claim that “They deleted and destroyed all evidence” has been repeatedly debunked. In fact, only “temporary” records that were not part of the Committee’s probe were not preserved. Everything else was saved and is available online.
Furthermore, Trump’s accusation that Pelosi is “guilty” of some jailable offense is wholly without merit or reason. He is obliquely referring to an offer he claims to have made to provide 10,000 National Guard troops on January 6th, an offer that was never made according to multiple sources, including his own Defense Department appointees. In any case, it was the president, Trump, not Pelosi, who was in charge of security in D.C.
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Trump also said that he would not direct his Attorney General or FBI Director to go after the Committee, but that “I think that they’ll have to look at that.” So he is, in effect, telling them to go after the Committee members, and probably others as well, including President Biden, his son Hunter, and prosecutors such as Jack Smith and Fani Willis. Much like a mob boss, he doesn’t have to give explicit orders to his subordinates, because they know what he means. They were hired to carry out his crusade of vengeance, and they know it.
We are barreling headlong at breakneck speed into a backwards world where lawmakers are locked up and lawbreakers are set free. And it’s going to take a mighty effort to resist this reversible perversion of politics. However, there are more of us than there are of them, and we have the law on our side. Even though it may not look like it sometimes.
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