If the Republican Party is ever going to wake up and shut down this misanthropic racist it had better be now. Donald Trump’s latest hateful howling has crossed a line of indecency that is impossible to ignore. And Godwin be damned, he is articulating Nazi rhetoric on a scale not seen since the originals.
Just yesterday Trump told Yahoo News that he would support the development of databases and other systems to track and monitor people in the United States on the basis of their religion. He did not rule out forcing Muslims to have identifying papers or badges. Perhaps he would make them wear a star and crescent in the manner that Hitler’s Nazis made Jews wear the Star of David. From Yahoo…
Yahoo News asked Trump whether this level of tracking might require registering Muslims in a database or giving them a form of special identification that noted their religion. He wouldn’t rule it out.
“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said when presented with the idea. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”
This grotesque policy position fits nicely with his prior statement that he believes it may be necessary to close mosques in America. He said that “there’s absolutely no choice” because “some really bad things are happening.” Apparently one of the “really bad things” isn’t the assault on our Constitution’s First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion. But that’s not all, Trump also told Yahoo News that…
“We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”
So “security is going to rule.” And I’ll bet the trains will run on time. And speaking of trains, this is the same man who wants to round up 11,000,000 Latinos for mass deportation. How he proposes to do that is a mystery, but it wouldn’t be surprising if it involved boxcars and concentration camps. He approvingly cited the 1950’s “Operation Wetback“ as a model for his plan. That operation resulted in dozens of deaths and was abandoned as a failure that violated humane standards.
In the short history of Trump’s campaign he has gotten away with saying repulsive things and demonstrating overtly bigoted behavior. Even when he disparaged solidly conservative principles like the military sacrifices of John McCain, or making a mockery of the practice of Christianity, his supporters remained faithful. And despite all of that, he still clings to the top of the polls in the Republican presidential primary. There has been an astonishing and troubling loyalty by Republicans who seem unfazed no matter how disgusting or ignorant he gets. And it isn’t just his supporters. Other GOP voters, pundits, and candidates, are reluctant to take him on.
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If that continues it will be impossible for the GOP to separate themselves from his repugnant views. And the same goes for Fox News, who flagrantly promote Trump’s campaign. They are already tied to him on most other issues with which they agree completely. But if they don’t want to forever be associated with the outright appeal to the policies of the Nazis, they need to renounce him and cease supporting him. If his polling isn’t hurt by this we’ll know for sure that a significant chunk of the Republican Party is cool with fascism.
He appeals to the fascist wing of the Republican Party – now 80 percent of its constituency, it seems.
The GOP made him, along with Fox News. They can’t deny it now.
“And what was I? Of my creation and creator I was absolutely ignorant, but I knew that I possessed (no) money, (no) friends, (no kind of) property.” With apologies to Mary Shelly
You may as well include the entire passage from Frankenstein. This is the monster reflecting upon the world. Are you implying this is the way Republicans think and perceive the world?
“The words induced me to turn towards myself. I learned that the possessions most esteemed by your fellow creatures were high and unsullied descent united with riches. A man might be respected with only one of these advantages, but without either he was considered, except in very rare instances, as a vagabond and a slave, doomed to waste his powers for the profits of the chosen few!
And what was I? Of my creation and creator I was absolutely ignorant, but I knew that I possessed no money, no friends, no kind of property.
I was, besides, endued with a figure hideously deformed and loathsome; I was not even of the same nature as man. I was more agile than they and could subsist upon coarser diet; I bore the extremes of heat and cold with less injury to my frame; my stature far exceeded theirs. When I looked around I saw and heard of none like me. Was I, then, a monster, a blot upon the earth, from which all men fled and whom all men disowned?” ~ Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley, From the book, Frankenstein.
It’s the totall truth, Fox news has created candidate Trump with unprecedented coverage especially O’REILLY, exposing to me and the world how bigoted and racist they are, fair and balanced, what a LIE
That’s what makes this so scary. Ted Cruz and even Jeb! are cowardly pandering for what used to be the extremists support, now mainstream republicanism, for political gain at a time when politics should take a back seat. There appear to be no qualified leaders in the republican race to call out these losers. And I highly doubt there would be many listeners in the conservative base if any of the alleged leaders decided to grow a pair.
Funny how the GOP and FoxNews all been using that fun word Nazi for last few years, but in fact are the ones following in the SS footsteps with all the stuff with Muslims, immigrants, Papers please, badges, and such.
And if you do not believe me, pick up a history book. Then read how the SS just was putting Jews in a Database to keep track of the evil religion, and badging them to identify them to others. Be it any color Triangle or star. Different colors for different “classes”. Be it Political, criminal, gay, Jew, etc.
Donald Trump is nothing more than a piece of garbage that needs to be removed from the presidential race. His name should no longer be recognized by the public.
No, Sandra. Trump is what the GOP has devolved into and he needs to be held under Uh’merica’s nose until the stench is overwhelming. They’ve gone so far Right that they’re only a step away from full-on Fascism and voters need to understand that. If you “remove” people like The Donald from the so-called democratic process then no-one has to answer for him and his popularity in the Republican party. The other candidates in the clown car are no different than Trump, but they have functioning “filters” that prevent them (usually) from saying things as bluntly as The Donald. This is why our kids still read about Anne Frank and Martin Luther King in school… we can’t let them forget what the hateful, old RWNJs never learned in the first place.
From “The Rise of Hitler” Following the War, Hitler went on speaking in beer halls. The drunk were his first audience. This is where he built his experience as a speaker. Put yourself in German shoes. You are hurt and ashamed by the first major defeat to your nation in over a century. You are hurt economically and psychologically. You are looking for answers.
(Fast forward to present day, where the “drunks” are the homophobic, xenophobic, racist base of FOX/GOP suffering the major humiliation of a Black man in the White house).
There is this young lad, who did “heroic” things in the war and who has the answers. He talks of German pride and honor. He talks about whom to blame. And you are drunk. Would you believe in Hitler? Not unsurprisingly, Hitler got standing ovations. (Again, fast forward to present day, where a Reality Show host, who, wants to “Make America Great Again”, has all the answers to the rapist, drug deal’n, job steal’n, benefit mooching, disease carrying, terrorist, illegal immigrant, wetback, muslin invaders).
Is this what the Rethuglican’s mean when they say they want their country back, or make America great again.
The right-wing now feels bullet proof. The more outrageous and radical they become, the more power they gain in this Republican trained country. The right-wing now controls the entire country. The only thing they’re missing is the White House and they intend to take that in November of 2016.
The Republicans control 70% of all state houses, 32 Governorships and With 247 seats in the House of Representatives and 54 seats in the Senate, this Congress began with the largest Republican majority since the 71st Congress of 1929–1931. The way I see it, the Republicans led by Karl Rove are unstoppable.
This is the reaction of Americans when the first black president is elected. Maybe we really are a racist and bigoted country after all, we just hide the fact behind laziness and the passive aggressive ploy of ‘not voting’.
A Short History Lesson:
In the 1920’s and early 30’s, no one took Adolph Hitler seriously. They said he was a clown, a race baiter, and a “fringe” candidate.
He called the Jews “vermin” and “dogs”. He talked about allowing no more Jews in Germany, and expelling the ones that were already there.
People thought, “surely that could never happen in Germany, a secular, constitutional democracy”. In 1933, Hitler came to power, in a democratic election. He proceeded to have his thugs burn down the German Reichstag, claim it was done by “Jewish terrorists”, declare martial law, and suspend civil liberties and the German constitution.
In 2015, we have Donald Trump calling for shutting down Mosques, and putting Muslim Americans in a “registry”. Ben Carson compared Syrian refugees to “rabid dogs” yesterday. He also said that Muslims were unfit to hold national office.
Ted Cruz thinks we should take in Christian refugees, and exclude Muslim ones. These men are the TOP THREE front runners for the GOP. So please excuse me for being alarmed, frightened and heart sick for our nation.
We are headed down a very, very dangerous road. Nazi Germany and the holocaust were not even 100 years ago. The time is NOW for people of conscience to stand up to this and speak out. It will be too late if any of these unfit candidates win.
Mason, try pointing your criticism toward the person who is most responsible for all those things you note – Barack Obama. The country isn’t racist, it doesn’t like incompetent leadership and extreme leftism – no more than it likes extreme right wing policies. When we elect an incompetent, we get exactly what you see today. We are to blame – we elect dummies who have no business being president and we complain when they can’t do the job.
When we elect an incompetent, we get exactly what you see today. We are to blame – we elect dummies who have no business being president and we complain when they can’t do the job.
He’s blaming us for the “election” of Mr. Obama’s predecessor?
The public yes – you personally, no. I thought about including GW Bush in the post, clearly I should have given your response.
The country isn’t racist?
That must be why all the Rethuglican’s I work with refer to the POTUS as the N ****R in the White House. I know it’s his left wing ideology. Please.
No, it’s not racist – just because you know a couple doesn’t make the whole country that way. brainwashed.
As much as you hate the POTUS, I can only bet your no different the the Rethuglican’s I work with. I’m sure you use the n-word with people you talk privately to.
steve in youk, are you being obtuse for the sake of just wanting to argue? Seriously, what Greg stated is real life for many, many people who have endured the slurs, and ni***r jokes, and pure, unadulterated hatred of the POTUS from day 1. Not because of his policies, record, or actions, but because he was black, from day 1. I have been shunned by members of my own family for voting for and supporting president Obama. If you use the Google you will find countless sites and examples that show the vile contempt that the John Birch Society turned Tea Party has had from the beginning of his presidency. From. Day. One. This summer in South Carolina where the KKK were demonstrating the removal of the Confederate Flag, Dr Lonnie Randolph, president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) South Carolina chapter, said his organization had a policy of not counter-protesting rallies, in part because the KKK has the “right to protest and the right to be wrong.” Hate groups are as common as baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and racism in America,” Randolph said. “America is still a racist nation. South Carolina is still a racist state … We’re in denial and won’t admit it.”
Typcial Liberal response – try reading the exchange from my initial post. Greg did NOT qualify his statement at all like you are trying to do. I’m not being obtuse at all. I would theorize it’s the difference in world view. To help understand the differences – this youtube video is a good example of how we see you. And all your examples still try to paint large groups of people with a broad brush. Do some individual hate Barack Obama because he is black – sure. Do all people who don’t support him actually hate him – no. Greg didn’t qualify anything – he used a quote from me “The country isn’t racist” – so what am I missing?
Here is the video that should explain how you (liberals) are viewed by many of us conservatives and it could explain some things. It was done by a comedian, but it’s not too far off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMyccAPrgA
I’m really not sure what you’re talking about or what comment your answer refers to. The Republicans dominating the policies in this country for the past 40 years is what has turned this nation into an economic and social bag of crap. George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents in U.S. history (he currently ranks in the bottom 5) and Americans elected him TWICE. There goes your “Americans don’t like incompetent leaders” theory.
I won’t list all the things George Bush screwed up because that would make this super long. President Obama, on the other hand, will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents in U.S. history (He’s already beating old Ronny Reagan by 2 places). Your comment is just more of the right-wing BS that both parties are the same and besides, it wasn’t one incompetent and corrupt Republican president being a lapdog for the super wealthy and their corporations all these years, since Richard Nixon, it has been the presidency of President Obama that has made this country completely dysfunctional.
Republican policies have destroyed us, like the right-wing’s trickle-down economics, that has given the super wealthy and their corporations all the money, wealth and power, or the right-wing created military industrial complex that now consumes 57% of our national budget, or how about the right-wing push for privatization of everything that ends up delivering lower quality products and services at a much higher cost to the tax payers?
We should also remember the war in Iraq that the right-wing lied us into and has cost this country over 5,000 of our young people and several trillion dollars, Let’s face it, Americans are big time racists and we have taken the super large majority that the 2008 election produced and turned it into the biggest strangle hold the Republican party has ever enjoyed, since this countries beginning (The Republicans control everything from the state-level to the U.S. supreme court now), when the country realized the White House was suddenly controlled by a ‘black man’. I could go on and on. God help this country if Americans are dumb enough to also hand the White House to the right-wing in November of 2016. We are now much closer to being a full blown fascist state than we have been since the 1930’s (Yes, America’s super wealthy and their corporations adored the fascist Nazis in Germany and the Italian fascists in Italy in the 1930’s and felt fascism would bring a lot of ‘quick fixes’ to the U.S.).
Again, I repeat, the right-wing now feels bullet proof. The more outrageous and radical they become, the more power they gain in this Republican trained country. The right-wing now controls the entire country. The only thing they’re missing is the White House and they intend to take that in November of 2016.
The Republicans control 70% of all state houses, 32 Governorships and With 247 seats in the House of Representatives and 54 seats in the Senate, this Congress began with the largest Republican majority since the 71st Congress of 1929–1931. The way I see it, the Republicans led by Karl Rove are unstoppable.
You argue this like the GOP actually campaigns on a program going forward. If this was the early 90s – then you would be right. The GOP only runs on anti- obama rhetoric – which is why they have won so much since 2008. Today’s GOP is fascist – but it wasn’t always that way. The GOP hasn’t been running things for that time – congress was all democrat until 1994 and since then – mostly republican with a few years 2006 – 2010 with democratic congress. I’m not and have not stumped for GOP policies – only their opposition to our current president. If they are “bullet proof” today, it’s because the voting public doesn’t have confidence in this president. There are no GOP policies with the exception of repealing Obamacare and war. Beyond that – they have no policy program to go forward. So if you claim they are bullet proof – there must be a reason and Karl Rove isn’t the reason. Your entire argument is just rationalization for a poor performance by this president. It’s undeniable. There is waay too much evidence to support my perspective – just in what I wrote here. You can continue to sleepwalk or you can see things for what they are.
And I’ve never in any post (now or previously) suggested GW Bush was some kind of great president. I’m able to see shitty presidents for what they are – even those who supposedly represented my side – which he didn’t. You could try it sometime.
President Bill Clinton (a corporate Democrat) stated in 1992, shortly after his election, that “we’re all conservatives now” and he proceeded to implement one Republican policy after another (That why many Republicans still love Bill Clinton. They think he’s one of their own). He eliminated Glass-Stegall, which led to the economic collapse in 2008. President Clinton super-charged the Republican war-on- drugs, originally started by Richard Nixon as well as the ‘zero-tolerance’ policies that have always made ‘zero sense. This led to the largest mass-incarceration, parole and probation crisis we have today. President Clinton cut child welfare for single mothers and child poverty and hunger have been growing exponentially ever since. Almost all of the policies Bill Clinton passed were on the conservative ‘wish list’. Your argument about a Democratic congress is pure BS. Democrats WANT government to work. Conservative Republicans wish to destroy it. Republicans have always used this against many of the weak and feckless Democrats that can’t seem to determine if they’re a conservative or an actual Democrat.
We have literally had 40 years of uninterrupted conservative domination in this country. Conservative ‘policies’, if I may call them such, are what has taken us from a number one placed nation in the world in the 1950′ and 1960’s, to being ranked towards the bottom in most categories, except, the number of citizens incarcerated in prison, number of people with borderline diabetes and the number of citizens that believe angels are real, We rank number one in these three categories only.
Democrats lose elections because many Democrats are now fake Republicans. Howard Dean stated it best; If all Americans have to choose from is a real Republican or a fake Republican, they’ll choose a real Republican every time. Of course, he stated that prior to the Republican party becoming bat-shit crazy like it is today. Republicans have trained Americans to be grateful losers and now it’s only a matter of time before the entire country will look economically and socially like Kansas, Wisconsin, Kentucky (in a couple years), New Jersey and all the other red-states, or the wannabe red states. The conservative dream of destroying America may be close at hand. Congratulations.
I’m not going to argue everything in your post, because some of what you say is correct. But much of what you state that supports your beliefs are totally wrong. 40 years of “conservative” policies – I don’t think so. Conservatism at it’s core is as follows – Smaller government, more freedom. That isn’t what’s happened – Ronald Reagan cut taxes but spent a lot more – on defense – and somehow that became conservative. I may be a throw back, but the attempted redefining of conservatism is nonsense – and today’s GOP isn’t conservative and certainly won’t defend it either. Conservatism is the opposite of what the republican party has become. And your entire argument about the 50’s and what happened since is totally formed by your ideological position – and very shallow at that. Honestly look at what policies have happened in the last 50 years and how the country has been transformed and much of what you will find is NOT conservative as you suggest. I’m not going to argue with you – so have at it.
Funny, you cite NONE O of the policies of Obama above to illustrate what policies of his you disagree with and here you cite NOTHING of the current conservative policies of the Republicans that are not conservative. YOU are the one that is long on rhetoric and GROSSLY SHORT on details!
The post to which you are responding wasn’t about Obama – it was a response to a long post prior – Can you be more specific? I didn’t mention his name or policies even once – not even a suggestion of him. I think I responded to the specific post, but going even longer seems to be a waste given the direction of the discussion…if you want me to address something specific – please tell me. I can go as detailed as you want.
Can YOU be more specific. You haven’t been specific about ANYTHING you don’t like about Obama. Just chicken-sh*t mealy mouth language against anything political. Frankly, I’m not impressed.
I was as specific as mason was in his post. And I’m not here to impress you – but thanks for commenting.
It’s perfectly clear now, Steve. You got NOTHING. But then, we already knew that!
Note – if you haven’t noticed yet, my comments most frequently are about correcting the mischaracterization of CONSERVATISM. Stop conflating conservatism with the GOP and I probably won’t comment. I’ll try to ignore the completely ridiculous beliefs that Barack Obama is a good president and that would eliminate most comments. You would be surprised to know we agree on actual issues more than we disagree.
“Conservatives” AKA Right Wing Extremists, have taken over the GOP thusly almost everything they do, or don’t do, or refuse to do, comes from the Conservatives almost absolute controlling hand. It’s quite amazing too considering, poll after poll finds that a majority of Americans are liberal in their views. Gerrymandering and ALEC have basically resulted in an almost complete takeover of our government and the only thing keeping that Power in check is our Democratic process, which is being slowly chipped away at (Citizens United, etc.) by that same Power. One of the biggest reasons for this power grab is the constant influence of the Evangelicals in this country.
Proving my point I see. I always enjoy a leftist explaining conservatism to a conservative – you really are a naggy bunch. Why don’t you tell me what your idea of conservative is…yes – it is right of center. Conservatism is not a part of the current GOP – maybe in rhetoric, but not in practice.
Your brand of conservatism is purely theoretical. It’s your get-out-of-Republicanism-free card and it’s tiresome. I can only imagine how entertaining you must be in person, droning on about a political ideology that one only hears about in classrooms. How about dealing with the reality of modern conservatism? Do you also insist on wearing powdered wigs and churning your own butter?
Eric, I gave you a great way to shut me up and you just can’t help it. I think you like me trolling around this blog.
Yes Steve, I think we do enjoy having you around.
Troll around all you want. You seem to require a lot of attention. See, that’s just one more conservative trait you have. You feel small and you think people talking to you, makes you a real human. Who says I give a rats ass about you or your backward ideology. I had a girlfriend like you once, needy, very needy. BTW, I notice you don’t waste a lot of your time and enegy trying to get others to waste their time and energy. You’re not even a good troll.
someone is mad…
Steve is mad that someone nailed him to a tee. Go ahead and cry Steve…we don’t care.
Yeah, don’t encourage me…..
Don’t feed the troll. What I have learned about Steve in Yank is that debating the loons only rewards their bad behavior and reinforces their delusion. Engaging such willfully ignorant individuals automatically elevates their nonsense to legitimacy. You cannot reason with unreasonable people.
I keep telling myself the same thing – yet I still try with this crowd. Your advice is good – the direction of the criticism isn’t quite right. But you get points for being partly right.